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--- saracen:start [2021/12/01 16:01] – gchandler
+++ saracen:start [2021/12/12 20:40] (current) – gchandler
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-(("This model was in fact to a specification supplied only to Staples. " See: [[https://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/classic_builders/wolverhamptonknight-cycles/|link]]))((Perhaps a few months later (in 1983/4) Knight' Saracens were resold and re-badged by [[evans:start|F. W. Evans]] - perhaps after the Bluemels acquisition.))
+(("This model was in fact to a specification supplied only to Staples. " See: [[https://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/classic_builders/wolverhamptonknight-cycles/|link]]))((Perhaps a few months later (in 1984) Knight' Saracens were resold and re-badged by [[evans:start|F. W. Evans]] - perhaps after the Bluemels acquisition.))
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 ===== 1983 Saracen =====
-Knight Cycles logo, lugged frame, black paint, Reynolds 501 tubing, SunTour aRX (1981-1983), over built brake bridge.
+No provable 1983 pictures can be found.  Saracen claims to have built bikes in [[https://www.saracen.co.uk/pages/about|1983]] and various internet sources hint at this.  However, all example pictures are not consistent with a 1983 timeline.  For now, this will be left blank, with some confidence that the 1983 starting date is accurate and that corroborating evidence will appear.
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-The model name was "Saracen," and the //Saracen brand// would appear a year or so later, under new ownership.  No early Japanese Saracens appear to have survived or been identified.
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-{{1983.jpg?300|1983 Saracen}}
+{{blank.jpg?300|TBD}}
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-Saracen
+Picture needed!
-[[https://imgur.com/gallery/yFTZTO2|imgur]]
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-===== 1984 Saracen =====
+===== 1984 ATB =====
-Knight Cycles logo, no model name, black paint, 600EX road Biopace cranks, XT derailleurs, Reynolds 531, with a standard brake bridge.
+Knight Cycles logo, lugged frame, black paint, Reynolds 501 tubing (1984+), SunTour aRX (1981-1983), over built brake bridge.
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+{{sad2.jpg?200|Jan. 1985 ad}}
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+Jan. 1985 advert.  Note that the name is simply "All-Terrain Bikes"
+[[https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/early-saracen-lovers-anonymous.40984/page-84|retrobike]]
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-{{1984b.jpg?300|1984 Saracen }}
+{{1983.jpg?300|1984 Saracen }}
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-[[https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/saracen-conquest-gate.429108/page-2|retrobike]]
+[[https://imgur.com/gallery/yFTZTO2|imgur]]
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-Knight Cycles logo, "Conquest" Brooks saddle, standard brake bridge, Reynlods 501 tubing and SunTour MounTech front derailleur, with a likely replacement rear derailleur.
+Knight Cycles logo, "Conquest" Brooks saddle, standard brake bridge, Reynolds 501 tubing and SunTour MounTech front derailleur, with a likely replacement rear derailleur.